Dave Chappelle’s ‘SNL’ Monologue, Jerry Seinfeld in His Pop-Tarts Movie – The Hollywood Reporter
As hard as it is to believe, Jerry Seinfeldof Comedians in cars getting coffee This year will be 10. The road-trip talk show — in which Seinfeld and his comedian pals ride in vintage cars and grab a cup of java at a talk shop — premiered July 19, 2012, on Crackle, then moved on to greener streaming pastures. Netflix In 2018.
In its 11 seasons, Seinfeld has hosted just about every influential comic in the business — his Seinfeld Co-creators include Larry David, David Letterman, the late Don Rickles, Chris Rock, Tina Fey, Jon Stewart, Steve Martin and Tracy Morgan. Along the way, he’s also hosted some comedy-adjacent people: then-President Barack Obama joined him in a 1963 Corvette Sting Ray for season seven, then had coffee with Seinfeld in the White House staff dining room.
To commemorate its 10th anniversary, Seinfeld has compiled some of the series’ most memorable exchanges Car comedians getting coffee books (Simon and Schuster). Available November 22 and packed with witty anecdotes and insight into the stand-up psyche, it’s a holiday gift for the comedy lover in your life.
Seinfeld, 68, joined The Hollywood Reporter For a conversation about what he thinks is funny, what he’s working on (including his Pop-Tart movie for Netflix), and his own thoughts on the controversies in the comedy world right now: Controversial 12 November Live on Saturday night Delivered by Solitude Dave Chappelle (Who, yes, appeared in an episode of it getting coffee and book features as well).
I am really enjoying reading the book. I think what I love about it, and what I love about the show, is that you really let us into the whole psychology of the comics. What do you feel makes a comic a comic and different from the regular population?
A true comic doesn’t really care about anything other than getting laughs. Everything else in human life seems artificial and meaningless.
There was an interesting exchange in the book where you’re talking to Dave Chappelle about how Chris Rock has a real edge and he speaks with an accent. You refer to his delivery using words like “command” and “closing argument”. I really like this idea – that comedians have to think constantly and make them more extreme.
Oh yeah, sure. In fact, the sillier the idea you present, the more fun it is. I think when it starts to become real, or to become, “This might be an actual relevant thought,” the fun goes away.
Do you think that is getting lost in translation with audiences now? Maybe with the rise of social media, that somehow, in the journey from the stage to the regular lecture, people are forgetting that these are extreme versions of thought?
It’s clearly evolving as we speak. I saw a stand-up special this morning and [there were] Lots of big jokes. But now a very necessary and necessary element is to show us the great mental anguish you are under. We want to see it. We want to know how and exactly how much you have been harmed and in what way and whose fault it is. And it’s now become a part of what people want from stand-up.
[Audiences] Feel so in love with stand up. And I think that’s kind of the indictment of other entertainment forms. Like, hey, movies and TV are supposed to do most of this work. We’re just kidding. But now people are looking for depth from stand up comics. I always think, “Well, the last thing I want to hear is something that was really bothering Rodney Dangerfield.” I don’t want to know! Just give the jokes. Take the pain, give the jokes.
I was watching your The New York Times Video interview where you explain how you wrote the Pop-Tart joke. I really liked it because you broke it down in a way that I haven’t seen before. And you compared making jokes to writing songs — that you have to be on a certain beat or rhythm and sometimes it comes down to shaving off syllables to get a laugh.
So comedy is a science to you. It earns a laugh mathematically.
Some parts are mathematical, other parts are just – it’s a word. I was talking to this comedian the other day, actually it was today. He has a bit about a dune buggy. And I just thought, “Wow. I wish I could say Dune Buggy every night.” Just a funny word.
So sometimes it’s the musical part – the words that are fun to say. You always try. I have this whole long bit about personal storage, and everywhere I go, there’s a part of it that says, “You have to unlock.” I don’t say “break it.” I don’t say “struggle to get into it.” But the word “bust in a lock.” It’s fun for the ears.
I used to do this about bathroom stalls where I would say “underdisplay viewing window.” No “under display” words. No phrase, it does not exist. I made it and everyone understood it instantly. But that’s the musical part — where it’s an entertainment for your ears. Totally for your ears.
And there are some characters that are supposed to be funny. As “k” is a funny letter I hear.
Yes, because they are cut.
I was just watching Jon Stewart and Colbert, two of my favorite comedians, debating Dave Chappelle. SNL Monologue and I’m just curious where you read it. Did you find it funny?
I think the comedy is well executed, but I think the subject matter calls for a conversation that I don’t think I want to be in this space.
But it makes you uncomfortable.
This provokes a conversation that is hopefully fruitful.
And that would be the kind of conversation you have with Dave? Because you seem to have a close relationship with him.
I have no close relationship with him. We are friends and it is not a close relationship.
Getting back to the topic of Pop-Tarts, where are you with the Netflix Pop-Tarts movie? [Unfrosted: The Pop-Tart Story]?
Netflix is watching it for the first time today after I just finished editing and then we’ll see where it’s at next week. It should be out early next year, I think.
Do not be mischievous. And are you happy with the first cut? Can you tell us something about it? I mean, it’s all fictional, right? This is not a true retelling of the original Pop-Tarts story.
Well, no. There is no story. But there are elements that are true that we use to start the story, that Post came up with the idea and Kellogg heard about it and said, “We have to do the same thing.” And then I kind of tell the story the right ingredients With NASA vs. the Soviet Union.
Yes, Pop-Tarts Race. (laughs.)
Well I’m definitely looking forward to it. I’m a big Pop-Tarts lover, so you’re talking to your target audience here. I was curious about something else: You surprised everyone by becoming a model. I’m curious how it came about — that KITH fashion spreads.
It was my son’s idea. They asked me to wear clothes. I wear clothes. (laughs.) I had a friend who was taking this brilliant photographer and I thought, “This is going to be on some person’s back page. W Magazine.” That no one will ever see.
Well good. That didn’t happen.
It was a crazy, strange thing how it happened. It was so much fun. It shows you how little you can predict about the world. Frankly, it totally shocked me that anyone saw it. But of course a lot of people saw it and it was very funny to me. Literally took an hour, that whole thing. “Put this jacket on and I’ll sit here.” “Take a picture.” “Give me this hat.” “I’ll sit there.” “Take the picture.” We were just fooling around.
Has it opened up other modeling opportunities?
yes yes I’m going to do a lot of modeling.
So back to the book. What are you doing to promote it? Are you doing any signings or appearing in person?
Yes, I’m doing it. This is. You’re supposed to help me with that.
I’m going to help you!
Thank you sir. Netflix just asked me if they could do a book party for me for the book. So we will work on that. And I don’t know, whatever else seems like a good thing.
And are you going to travel this year and in 2023?
Yes, I started the tour this month. I’m just assembling the ingredients. But yes, I am doing the show now.
great I saw you at Pantages and it was very funny. I love the bit about what a pain in the ass it is to even get to the theater.
yes yes And then you have to get back.
Finally, I’m just curious, who are your all-stars? The comedy all-star of our generation.
our generation That’s a bit broad. What age limit are you giving me to work?
Well, they should be alive and over 40.
Alive and over 40. Do I really love the person I saw? As you have, this is a little unclear. I don’t know how deep you are in stand up. have you ever seen Fred Armisen: Standup for drummers. It’s on Netflix. You need to be able to play a snare drum to get tickets to the show. Because it’s about drumming, but it’s not really. It’s only like 15, 20 minutes of drumming material. But it’s absolutely brilliant. This is a great stand-up special.
I love many people. I love Ronnie Chiang The Daily Show. I love her stand up. I think it is very nice. I love earthquakes. I think he is incredible. I love real hardball stand up. No, I’m not interested in funny anecdotes from your journal. I want to hear about things that absolutely cannot happen.
So who else do I love lately? I love everything Chris Rock does. I mean, like the guys who really go for the humor. right? Not so much, “I want you to know who I really am.”
You could care less.
It’s not that I don’t care. But we need jokes. It’s like a Woody Allen chicken joke. Do you remember that? Looks like the guy goes to a psychiatrist. She says, “My brother thinks he is a chicken. I don’t know what to do for him.” The psychiatrist said, “Why don’t you send him in?” She says, “I would, but we need eggs.” It’s about, “We need jokes.”
Interviews edited for length and clarity.
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